1. Now Joseph could not take all those standing around him, and he called out, "Everyone get away from me!" So no one stood with him when Joseph made himself known to his brothers. | | א. וְלֹא יָכֹל יוֹסֵף לְהִתְאַפֵּק לְכֹל הַנִּצָּבִים עָלָיו וַיִּקְרָא הוֹצִיאוּ כָל אִישׁ מֵעָלָי וְלֹא עָמַד אִישׁ אִתּוֹ בְּהִתְוַדַּע יוֹסֵף אֶל אֶחָיו: |
2. And he wept out loud, so the Egyptians heard, and the house of Pharaoh heard. | | ב. וַיִּתֵּן אֶת קֹלוֹ בִּבְכִי וַיִּשְׁמְעוּ מִצְרַיִם וַיִּשְׁמַע בֵּית פַּרְעֹה: |
3. Joseph said to his brothers, "I am Joseph. Is my father still alive?" but his brothers could not answer him because they were stunned by his face. | | ג. וַיֹּאמֶר יוֹסֵף אֶל אֶחָיו אֲנִי יוֹסֵף הַעוֹד אָבִי חָי וְלֹא יָכְלוּ אֶחָיו לַעֲנוֹת אֹתוֹ כִּי נִבְהֲלוּ מִפָּנָיו: |
4. Then Joseph said to his brothers, "Please come closer to me," and they drew closer. And he said, "I am your brother Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt. | | ד. וַיֹּאמֶר יוֹסֵף אֶל אֶחָיו גְּשׁוּ נָא אֵלַי וַיִּגָּשׁוּ וַיֹּאמֶר אֲנִי יוֹסֵף אֲחִיכֶם אֲשֶׁר מְכַרְתֶּם אֹתִי מִצְרָיְמָה: |
5. But now do not be sad, and let it not trouble you that you sold me here, for it was to preserve life that God sent me before you. | | ה. וְעַתָּה | אַל תֵּעָצְבוּ וְאַל יִחַר בְּעֵינֵיכֶם כִּי מְכַרְתֶּם אֹתִי הֵנָּה כִּי לְמִחְיָה שְׁלָחַנִי אֱלֹהִים לִפְנֵיכֶם: |
6. For already two years of famine [have passed] in the midst of the land, and [for] another five years, there will be neither plowing nor harvest. | | ו. כִּי זֶה שְׁנָתַיִם הָרָעָב בְּקֶרֶב הָאָרֶץ וְעוֹד חָמֵשׁ שָׁנִים אֲשֶׁר אֵין חָרִישׁ וְקָצִיר: |
7. God sent me before you to make for you a portion in the land, and to keep [it] for you for a great deliverance. | | ז. וַיִּשְׁלָחֵנִי אֱלֹהִים לִפְנֵיכֶם לָשׂוּם לָכֶם שְׁאֵרִית בָּאָרֶץ וּלְהַחֲיוֹת לָכֶם לִפְלֵיטָה גְּדֹלָה: |
8. And now, you did not send me here, but God, who made me a father to Pharaoh, a lord over all his household, and a ruler over the entire land of Egypt. | | ח. וְעַתָּה לֹא אַתֶּם שְׁלַחְתֶּם אֹתִי הֵנָּה כִּי הָאֱלֹהִים וַיְשִׂימֵנִי לְאָב לְפַרְעֹה וּלְאָדוֹן לְכָל בֵּיתוֹ וּמשֵׁל בְּכָל אֶרֶץ מִצְרָיִם: |
9. Go quickly and go up to my father, and say to him, 'So said your son, Joseph: "God has made me a lord over all the Egyptians. Come down to me, do not hesitate. | | ט. מַהֲרוּ וַעֲלוּ אֶל אָבִי וַאֲמַרְתֶּם אֵלָיו כֹּה אָמַר בִּנְךָ יוֹסֵף שָׂמַנִי אֱלֹהִים לְאָדוֹן לְכָל מִצְרָיִם רְדָה אֵלַי אַל תַּעֲמֹד: |
10. And you shall dwell in the land of Goshen, and you shall be near to me, you and your children and your grandchildren, and your flocks and your cattle and all that is yours. | | י. וְיָשַׁבְתָּ בְאֶרֶץ גּשֶׁן וְהָיִיתָ קָרוֹב אֵלַי אַתָּה וּבָנֶיךָ וּבְנֵי בָנֶיךָ וְצֹאנְךָ וּבְקָרְךָ וְכָל אֲשֶׁר לָךְ: |
Guiding Questions:
1. According to Etz Hayim (p. 276), why did Joseph tell all of his Egyptian servants to "get away" from him?
2. According to Etz Hayim, (p. 276), what are some of the possible reasons Joseph chose not to send a message to his father Jacob that he was okay? Do you agree with any of them?
3. According to the Stone Chumash (p. 253), what is the meaning of the word וְעַתָּה ("and now") in verse 8?
4. According to the Stone Chumash (p. 254), what are some of the reasons Joseph choose Goshen for his brothers' families?
5. Barry Shrage compares Joseph to Moses in Text Messages (p. 53). Why was Moses a better leader?
6. Compare this story of Joseph reacting to his brothers to Cain's reaction to God in Genesis 4:1-12 (which we studied before)? How can you read this story as an answer to that story?
7. The Women's Torah Commentary points out that this is one of many times that Joseph cries (see p. 263). What are the other times? Why does Joseph cry?
Our question is According to Etz Hayim, (p. 276), what are some of the possible reasons Joseph chose not to send a message to his father Jacob that he was okay? Do you agree with any of them?
ReplyDeleteOur commentator is Etz Hayim.
There were several
One of our answers is he was angry at his father because his father favoring him put him through so much.
Another answer is he was reluctance to shame his brothers to tell his father what happened.
We agree with the second answer
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We agree. It makes sense that he would be angry because he believes in antifavoritism.
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ReplyDeleteThe commentary on page 276 in the Etz Hayim suggests an answer to question 1. The first question asks; Why did Joseph tell all of his Egyptian servants to "get away" from him? The commentary says that Joseph told his servants to "get away" because he did not want them to know that he was sold into slavery. This reminds us that slaves were looked down upon. Also, this teaches us that Joseph is embarrassed about his past.
We agree with you that Joseph was embarrassed about his past. Although, we were surprised that he treated his servant like this because he was in their place at one point. We would think that because he was in their at one point he would want to treat his servants nicer,
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Clara and I think that Josef doesn't want to let the servants know because they aren't friends. The servants work for Josef, but don't need to know everything about his past.
DeleteWhat about the other reason: He only wanted this intense moment of reconciliation to be shared between him and his brothers and not anyone else.
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DeleteItai- that is a good point. Joseph wanted to make this intense moment a moment that he shared with just his brothers.
DeleteWhy was Joseph so embarrassed about his passed? Didn't he thank and forgive his brothers for they had done to him?
DeleteAdin and I used the woman's Torah commentary. This commentary answered the question of why Joseph was crying. It turns out this is the third or fourth time Joseph has cried. The woman's commentary also points out that Joseph a female cry or was feeling female emotional distress. Adin and I thought that if we were in Josephs situation we would also cry alot because he went through a lot. Most people don't get sold into slavery by their brothers.
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What do you mean by "he was feeling female emotional distress"?
DeleteI had the same question
DeleteHe was feeling female emotional distress because he was crying all the time. Right.
DeleteHow is crying female?
DeleteI believe it had to do something to do with his mother and her death. but really I don't know (I've never been a female before).
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Yeah Micah you're right
DeleteOkay sorry it is a little sexist but that is what the commentary said. Also if you look at the commentary you will see that it isn't meant as something sexist they are just trying to get a point across.
DeleteThis offends me
DeleteMaybe the Torah just talks about women crying more than men.
DeleteOkay yech i deeply apologize
DeleteIt's true that girls cry more but only because girls have larger tear-ducts! Plus how do girls know if a boy is feeling like a girl? That's more of a opinion!
DeleteNo need :)
Deletewhat it might mean is that the idea of crying in that time period was more associated with women and being feminine
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That's a good point.
DeleteActually the males cry a lot too. probably more than the males.
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Ari I think that that is very sexiest and you are very sexiest
DeleteThat's probably why Joseph wanted his servents to go away. So they wouldn't see him being a girl.
DeleteI used the Etz Hayim commentary. It said that when josefphf says "have everyone get away from me", it means that nobody heard when Yoseph told his bros who he was. He didn't want any Egyptians to know his brothers had sold him into slavery.
ReplyDeleteBut he wanted people to leave him alone
DeleteExactly. He wanted his servants to leave him alone with his brothers so they wouldn't know he had been sold into slavery.
DeleteI think that you are right liora. he would lose his respect if the eygptions knew he was a slave
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the egyptians didn't respect him in the first place
Delete@Adin and @Ari - do you think the Egyptians didn't know he had been a slave? Had Pharoah hidden that from them before making him a ruler?
DeleteNo way they knew if they had they would not respect him and if they didn't respect him then they wouldn't listen to him as a ruler.
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Yeah the egyptians respected him? and liora, that's what I said!
DeleteWhy is it so important to loose respect
DeleteOur question is: In verse 8 how does Rashi interpret the words "He made me a father to Pharaoh".
ReplyDeleteRashi takes this piece to mean that being a father is the same as being a colleague and a protector.
We think that this is very interesting. We agree with Rashi in the sense that being a father has many responsibilities. You can't just give the child what he or she needs like food and shelter. Fathers need to protect their children, they need to be there for them emotionally, they need to be there as a teacher and a friend.
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I agree with this. When you are a parent you have to do more than just feed and clothe your children. To be a good parent you have to love and care for them also.
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DeleteI agree with Giselle
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The eitz chayim chumash states that joseph didnt comnicate during his years of authority because he was reluctant to shame his brothers by "being a tattletale". I think that he simply didnt know where his family- who where nomadic herders- where.
ReplyDeleteWell, the brothers went back and forth from Egypt many times, and could always find their camp. Why wouldn't Joseph be able to?
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ReplyDeleteThe stone Chumash translate it as "THE NOW" which I think to mean in the moment. This means That this happened in the now or the moment.
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ReplyDeleteThe commentary on page 276 in the Etz Hayim chumash answers question 2;What are some of the possible reasons Joseph chose not to send a message to his father Jacob that he was okay? Do you agree with any of them? The commentary says that some possible reasons are that Joseph was angry at his father for the way he favored him. Another possibility is that Joseph was reluctant, or hesitant, to tell his father the whole truth about what happened with him and his brothers. This can teach us that we should be honest from the beginning because lying will come back to bite us.
I agree because Joseph was never mad at his brothers because he understood his jealousy. His father is what caused everything so he's mad at him. On the other hand, he can't be mad because if it wasn't for his favoritism, they wouldn't have ever went to Egypt and saved the Egyptians from the famine and the prophecy of Abraham's children being in slavery in Egypt wouldn't have happened. So this was obviously God's doing.
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ReplyDeleteWe answered the question: 6. Compare this story of Joseph reacting to his brothers to Cain's reaction to God in Genesis 4:1-12 (which we studied before)? How can you read this story as an answer to that story?
When Joseph shows himself to his brothers, he wanted his family to come live near him, and he forgave them for what they did. You can really see how much Joseph loves his family. In contrast, when God asked Cain where Abel is, Cain says, “Am I my brothers keeper?”. Cain didn’t want anything to do with Abel, he was so mad at him that he didn’t want him to be in his life anymore. Cain didn’t love his family the way Joseph did.
I love that connection. I totally agree with this comment. I do not know why Cain is so distant from his family. Maybe because we know that his mom loves Abels more.
DeleteOur chevruta group chose to answer question no. 2 which asks for the reasons that Joseph didn't send a message to Jacob that he was safe. Etz Hayim chumash states multiple answers including that he was angry his father favored him which made his siblings get envious and sell him to Egyptian slavers. Another answer is that Joseph didn't want to be a "tattletale" about his brother selling himself into slavery. Another answer is that he resented his favoritism bringing envy. We agree with the answer that Joseph didn't communicate with his father Jacob because he was angry that his father favored him over his brothers. The overall lesson of this parshah is that favoritism is a weapon and people can't always be blamed for their actions because of their emotions.
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Josh Bermel and Maya:
ReplyDeleteThe reason Joseph chose Goshem for his family is because it was good and fertile land. Joseph wanted good farm land for his family to prosper.
Clara and I asked the question: Why did Josef tell his Egyptian servants to "get away"? Etz Chayim says Josef doesn't want the servants to know that his brothers sold Josef to slavery. We agree with this statement. Although we think there's another reason why Joseph wants to be with his brothers alone. Maybe another reason is because this is an intimate action between Joseph and his brothers. He doesn't want his servants to see. Overall we agree with Etz Hayim.
ReplyDeleteLili and I also did that question and we found the same thing.
DeleteI personally agree more with your idea. The servants probably already knew that Joseph had been in jail, anyway. I wouldn't want someone to know if I'd been in jail.
DeleteLili and I answered question 1. which asked According to Etz Hayim (p. 276), why did Joseph tell all of his Egyptian servants to "get away" from him? We found that Joesph sent his servants away because it was a very intimate moment and also because he didn't want his servants to knew that his brothers sold him to slavery. Lili and I thought that this was maybe because he didn't want his servants to think that he was not liked by his brothers.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Josseph would care what his servents think of him.
DeleteI think he would, because he earned their respect, he would probably want to keep it.
DeleteIn Etz Hayim it answers the question, "why did Josef tell all the Egyptians to leave." Etz Hayim had two answers. The first answer says that Josef kicked them out because it was a very dramatic and personal moment. The second answer is that Josef didn't want the Egyptians to know that he was sold into slavery by his brothers. I think the first answer makes more sense because it was a really dramatic moment with his brothers and he wanted privacy.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the second answer how did that add to your understanding?
DeleteOur question, According to Etz Hayim (p. 276), why did Joseph tell all of his Egyptian servants to "get away" from him, was answered by Etz Hayim. His answer was that he didn't want this intense moment of reconciliation to be shared with anyone else, but himself and his brothers. He also didn't want the Egyptians to know that his brothers sold him to Egypt. It helped us and added to our understanding of the text by telling us his feelings and extra details to analyze and connect to our own lives.
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but why wouldn't Joseph want revenge on his brothers
Delete1. According to Etz Hayim (p. 276), why did Joseph tell all of his Egyptian servants to "get away" from him?
ReplyDeleteAccording to Etz Hayim (p.276) Joseph told all of his Egyptian servants to get away because Joseph was sad and felt bad toward the whole situation.
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Jules & Noah
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We are using Text Messages. Barry Shrage says Joseph is "the anti-Moses." Barry Shrage says this because they, when you look closely, are different. For example, when Barry says, "Joseph was a Hebrew who became an Egyptian. Moses was the Egyptian who became a Hebrew." Or when Barry says, "Joseph strengthened Pharaoh's dictatorship, and he helped produce an Egyptian system that rejected foreigners and strangers. Moses weakened Pharaoh, liberated the slaves, and commanded his people to welcome strangers and protect the oppressed, "because you were strangers in the land of Egypt"(Exodus 22:20)." Before we weren't sure if Barry Shrage was right. I mean Joseph did save a lot people, and so did Moses. We usually don't complain about our heroes...right? But when Barry compared them side by side, we saw he right. He was using facts that we didn't think twice about. We thougt it was really cool!
Noah & Jules :)
It is interesting that Joseph is being compared to Moshe. I don't know if I agree that we should said that Joseph is "the anti-Moses" because this sounds negative. Did Joseph do something bad?
DeleteYa! He help Pharaoh gain power!
DeleteAccording to Etz Hayyim, Joseph told all of his Egyptian servants to get away from him because he didn't want the servants to know that he had been sold for slavery by his brothers. He also didn't want strangers to know his private business. I understand how Joseph must have been feeling. Sometimes it doesn't feel good when somebody else knows something personal about you,like your grade or something.
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ReplyDeleteOur commentary from the stone chumash answers question 3; According to the Stone Chumash (p. 253), what is the meaning of the word וְעַתָּה ("and now") in verse 8?
The commentary says that וְעַתָּה shows that Joseph is emphasizing the now because previously he blamed his brothers, but now his brothers are "tools of God". We think this teaches us that we can always change. Forgiveness is precious. People give people another chance. Joseph judges them based on who he thinks they are now, even though he knows their past.
I wonder if his brothers are happy (Yay he's ok with it!) or sad (Tools? I'm independent!)
Deleteetz chayim says that josheph didnt want an outsider to wintesss the event of the reconilation of joseph and his brothers.
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ReplyDeleteCommentator: Stone edition chumash
Question: According to the Stone Chumash (p. 254), what are some of the reasons Joseph choose Goshen for his brothers' families?
Answer: He wanted the Israelites to be away from the idolitrists and Goshen was a place where they could be shepherds
Extra thoughts: This decision was very logical because Jews can assimilate easily.
According to Etz Hayyim, Joseph didn't send a letter to his dad telling him he was actually alive because he was angry that his father chose him as his favorite, which got him into this problem in the first place. Or, he was afraid of embarrassing his brothers by telling his father about how they sold him as a slave. I don't really understand how he felt because I would have told my father if I was alive and he thought I was dead. I don't think I could ever be angry enough to write to my father. And I would be mad at my brothers and actually want to tell on them.
ReplyDeletewhat made joseph a better leader than moses and what made moses a better leader then joseph
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Leora and Micah
ReplyDeleteBarry Shrage in "Text Messages" answers question 5, Why was Moses a better leader?
Barry says that Moshe was not all about success. He was about the people. Joseph was the complete opposite of this. We think that Joseph seemed like a good leader, but Moses was definitely a better one.
Our second question is Q. No. 1. Our commentator is the Etz Hayim chumash. The question asks why Joseph told the Egyptian servants to "get away" from him? The Etz Hayim answers that he sobbed of hearing his brother's selflessness and sacrifice. He told the servant's to go away because he didn't want Pharoah to know of his family or for the servants to be there.
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Why wouldn't he want to Pharoh to know about his family?
Deletefamily would make great hostages. josheph wouldnt want pharoah to get political leverage
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