Monday, November 18, 2013

Vayeshev - Genesis 37:1-11 - What Do You Do With an Obnoxious Brother?

1. Jacob settled in the land of his father's wanderings, in the land of Canaan.א. וַיֵּשֶׁב יַעֲקֹב בְּאֶרֶץ מְגוּרֵי אָבִיו בְּאֶרֶץ כְּנָעַן:
2. This is the legacy of Jacob: when Joseph was seventeen years old, being a shepherd, he was with his brothers with the flocks, and he was a boy, [and was] with the sons of Bilhah and with the sons of Zilpah, his father's wives; and Joseph brought evil tales about them to their father.ב. אֵלֶּה | תֹּלְדוֹת יַעֲקֹב יוֹסֵף בֶּן שְׁבַע עֶשְׂרֵה שָׁנָה הָיָה רֹעֶה אֶת אֶחָיו בַּצֹּאן וְהוּא נַעַר אֶת בְּנֵי בִלְהָה וְאֶת בְּנֵי זִלְפָּה נְשֵׁי אָבִיו וַיָּבֵא יוֹסֵף אֶת דִּבָּתָם רָעָה אֶל אֲבִיהֶם:
3. Israel loved Joseph more than all his sons because he was a son of his old age; and he made him a colorful coat.ג. וְיִשְׂרָאֵל אָהַב אֶת יוֹסֵף מִכָּל בָּנָיו כִּי בֶן זְקֻנִים הוּא לוֹ וְעָשָׂה לוֹ כְּתֹנֶת פַּסִּים:
4. His brothers saw that their father loved him more than all his brothers, so they hated him, and they could not speak with him peacefully.ד. וַיִּרְאוּ אֶחָיו כִּי אֹתוֹ אָהַב אֲבִיהֶם מִכָּל אֶחָיו וַיִּשְׂנְאוּ אֹתוֹ וְלֹא יָכְלוּ דַּבְּרוֹ לְשָׁלֹם:
5. Joseph dreamed a dream and told his brothers, and they continued to hate him.ה. וַיַּחֲלֹם יוֹסֵף חֲלוֹם וַיַּגֵּד לְאֶחָיו וַיּוֹסִפוּ עוֹד שְׂנֹא אֹתוֹ:
6. And he said to them, "Listen now to this dream, which I have dreamed:ו. וַיֹּאמֶר אֲלֵיהֶם שִׁמְעוּ נָא הַחֲלוֹם הַזֶּה אֲשֶׁר חָלָמְתִּי:
7. Look here, we were binding stalks in the midst of the field, and look here, my sheaf rose and stood up, and look here, your sheaves made a circle and bowed down to my sheaf."ז. וְהִנֵּה אֲנַחְנוּ מְאַלְּמִים אֲלֻמִּים בְּתוֹךְ הַשָּׂדֶה וְהִנֵּה קָמָה אֲלֻמָּתִי וְגַם נִצָּבָה וְהִנֵּה תְסֻבֶּינָה אֲלֻמֹּתֵיכֶם וַתִּשְׁתַּחֲוֶיןָ לַאֲלֻמָּתִי:
8. So his brothers said to him, "Will you rule over us, or will you govern us?" And they continued further to hate him because of his dreams and his words.ח. וַיֹּאמְרוּ לוֹ אֶחָיו הֲמָלֹךְ תִּמְלֹךְ עָלֵינוּ אִם מָשׁוֹל תִּמְשֹׁל בָּנוּ וַיּוֹסִפוּ עוֹד שְׂנֹא אֹתוֹ עַל חֲלֹמֹתָיו וְעַל דְּבָרָיו:
9. And he again dreamed another dream, and he told it to his brothers, and he said, "Look here, I have dreamed another dream, and look here, the sun, the moon, and eleven stars were bowing down to me."ט. וַיַּחֲלֹם עוֹד חֲלוֹם אַחֵר וַיְסַפֵּר אֹתוֹ לְאֶחָיו וַיֹּאמֶר הִנֵּה חָלַמְתִּי חֲלוֹם עוֹד וְהִנֵּה הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ וְהַיָּרֵחַ וְאַחַד עָשָׂר כּוֹכָבִים מִשְׁתַּחֲוִים לִי:
10. And he told [it] to his father and to his brothers, and his father scolded him and said to him, "What is this dream that you have dreamed? Will we come I, your mother, and your brothers to bow ourselves down to you to the ground?"י. וַיְסַפֵּר אֶל אָבִיו וְאֶל אֶחָיו וַיִּגְעַר בּוֹ אָבִיו וַיֹּאמֶר לוֹ מָה הַחֲלוֹם הַזֶּה אֲשֶׁר חָלָמְתָּ הֲבוֹא נָבוֹא אֲנִי וְאִמְּךָ וְאַחֶיךָ לְהִשְׁתַּחֲוֹת לְךָ אָרְצָה:
11. So his brothers were jealous of him, but his father hesitated on the matter.יא. וַיְקַנְאוּ בוֹ אֶחָיו וְאָבִיו שָׁמַר אֶת הַדָּבָר:

Guiding Questions:
1. According to the Etz Hayim chumash (p. 226), what is irony of the phrase "Jacob settled"? (Irony is when the text says one thing but actually the opposite is true.) What is the lesson for all of us about "settling" when we should be paying attention or trying harder?

2. According to Rashi, what is the meaning of the phrase in verse 1, "he was a boy" when he was actually  seventeen years old? In your opinion, what is the difference between being a boy and being a man, or being a girl and being a woman?

3. According to the Etz Hayim chumash (p. 227), why does Joseph tell his brothers his dreams instead of keeping them to himself? Have you ever shared something you knew you shouldn't because you couldn't hold it in? What happened?

4. According to the Plaut Modern Torah commentary (p. 244), what are a few of the different translations of כְּתֹנֶת פַּסִּים? What is the possible meaning of the coat for Jacob and Joseph?

5. According to the Stone Chumash (p. 199), what was wrong about Joseph's "evil reports" about his brothers? What is the lesson for us?

6. According to the Women's Torah Commentary (p. 212), what does Jacob's behavior in this story have in common with the story of Dinah?

7. According to Rashi (verse 10), why did Jacob scold or rebuke Joseph? Do you think this was enough? What do you think Jacob should have done?

25 comments:

  1. From Giselle and Kol:
    We used the commentator Rashi for question number 7:According to Rashi (verse 10), why did Jacob scold or rebuke Joseph? Do you think this was enough? What do you think Jacob should have done?
    Rashi said that his father rebuked him because he didn't know why Joseph would tell his family his dreams if he knows their reactions will be bad. His father is confused as to why he would to this to himself. Joseph tells his family his dreams, knowing that they will not respond well to them. His father is confused to why he would do this. Joseph's actions are questioned by his father, and his father doesn't like what Joseph is doing. We would also ask Joseph why he was doing this. It doesn't make sense why he would tell his brothers his dreams. Joseph knows the outcome of his actions so he shouldn't tell them anyways.

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    1. What does this tell us about Jacob? He does favor a child yet he still stands for justice

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    2. What quote did Rashi interpret when he said that Joseph tells his family his dreams, knowing that they will not respond well to them?

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    3. Maybe thats why God punishes him later on...

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  2. Leora and Micah
    Our commentary is suggesting an answer to question number 5: According to the Stone Chumash (p. 199), what was wrong about Joseph's "evil reports" about his brothers? What is the lesson for us?
    The Stone Chumash says that Joseph was a "tattletale" and what he told his father about his brothers was inaccurate. He did not report all the facts, and he didn't make any conclusions; He did not try to fix the situation. This is why his brothers hated him. This can teach us to always be honest and accurate. Also, we might have negative thoughts about someone or something, but if we don't try to change the negative situation, we are just as at fault as the other person or thing. We cannot be a bystander, and the commentary is saying that Joseph was a bystander.

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  3. Clara I chose question number five. According to the Stone Chumash Josef reported everything his brothers did to Jacob if they did something wrong. That is one reason the 11 brothers hated their brother Jacob. Another reason the brothers hated Josef was because Josef told Jacob the wrong stories. Most of the time the brothers were innocent but Josef misinterpreted them. We agree with The Stone Chumash because if Josef is lying then the brothers shouldn't get in trouble.

    --Mia and Clara

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    1. Wow then why should Josef have a good life later on in the story. A good leader is a jerk. I would probably hate him too if he did that to me.

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    2. They may have had problems yet Joseph did not tell the whole story. Do you think Joseph just exaggerated the situations too much or do you think do you he made up the whole story?

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    3. I think we don't know if he made up the whole story or exaggerated the story. Either way, he did something that was not right and not fair.

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    4. So how did G-d punish Josef? you know for all his bad deeds?

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  4. Jules & Noah
    We are using Rashi doing answering question 2.
    Rashi says, "He behaved childishly, fixing his hair and touching up his eyes so that he would appear handsome." Noah and I think that there is no real age when you are a man. This is because Men act mature and no "childish." Sometimes it takes a while because some boys take longer than others. So maybe Joseph is a boy who takes a longer.

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    1. But what is so childish about that?

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  5. We answered question 7 on what Jacob did to scold and why he scolded. Our commentator is Rashi. Rashi says that Jacob rebuked him because he brought hatred upon himself. We agree with Rashi. By Ben, Nadav, and Josh

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    1. But what's the reason you agree with Rashi?

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  6. Gavy and Josh
    Our commentary is Rashi.
    We are answering question two: According to Rashi, what is the meaning of the phrase in verse 1, "he was a boy" when he was actually seventeen years old? In your opinion, what is the difference between being a boy and being a man, or being a girl and being a woman?
    Rashi's answer is that Joshua is childish because he try's to look good and beautiful.
    Now we understand why it is so important to be "pretty" and if you do try to look "pretty" you are considered a boy or a girl not a man or a woman/.

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    1. So is it wrong for women to want to look beautiful? I don't want to speak for the boys.

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  7. 10. And he told [it] to his father and to his brothers, and his father scolded him and said to him, "What is this dream that you have dreamed? Will we come I, your mother, and your brothers to bow ourselves down to you to the ground?"

    We were looking deeper into verse 10. Here, Jacob scolds Josef because he told a dream where all of his family were bowing down to him. Our question is why did Jacob scold Josef? Do you think this is enough punishment? Wheat should he have done differently if anything?

    According to Rashi's commentary, Jacob scolded Josef because in telling his dream to his family so selfishly Josef was "bring hatred upon himself"
    Our opinions: We think that Jacob's punishment of scolding him wasn't sufficient for what he did. We think that because in that time the children had to respect the parents to the greatest extent and with the highest reverence. What Josef did was basically telling his parents that they should bow down to him. He was implying upon the family that he thought very highly of himself- In this section it is very easy to see Josef as being very vain. We think that maybe instead of just yelling at Josef Jacob should have taught him why his actions were so bad. With what he did in the story, Josef seems very confused and is just disconnected from his family. Nothing good can come from this.
    Danielle and Rebecca

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  8. Our question, According to Rashi, what is the meaning of the phrase in verse 1, "he was a boy" when he was actually seventeen years old? In your opinion, what is the difference between being a boy and being a man, or being a girl and being a woman?, was answered by Rashi. Rashi's answer was that Joseph was not literally a child, but he behaved childishly. We think that the difference between a boy and a man is that the difference in age and maturity can shape their different identities. This commentary added to our understanding of the text because it added details to our minds that made us analyze the text a little more and added to our opinions.
    Itai and Jared

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  9. Josh Bermel and Gavy
    Rashi says Jacob scolded Joseph rebuked Joseph was because it brought hate on him. HE was ashamed of Josephs story.

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  10. 7. According to Rashi (verse 10), why did Jacob scold or rebuke Joseph? Do you think this was enough? What do you think Jacob should have done?

    And he told [it] to his father and to his brothers: After he told it to his brothers, he told it again to his father in their presence.

    ויספר אל אביו ואל אחיו: לאחר שספר אותו לאחיו חזר וספרו לאביו בפניהם:


    his father rebuked him: because he was bringing hatred upon himself.

    ויגער בו: לפי שהיה מטיל שנאה עליו:

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  11. We studied from the Women's Torah Commentary which claims that Jacob was an ineffective father with protecting Joseph the same way he didn't protect Dinah. In the story of Dinah, Dinah was unprotected out in the field and it was up to her brothers to take revenge. If Jacob had been involved, Dinah might not have been raped and her brothers might not have gone overboard with their revenge. Similarly, instead of hesitating, Jacob could have sent Joseph into the field with protection. Also, if Jacob had not paid so much attention to Joseph, he would've noticed how his other kids were feeling.
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    Liora, Leora, Ruby and Ben

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  12. We studied why Rashi called 17-year old Joseph a "boy" instead of calling him a "man". We found out that Rashi called him a "boy" because Joseph cared about his looks(he would fix his hair and touch-up his eyes), which was considered childish behavior. Rashi bases Joseph's maturity on how he acts, not his age.
    Maya & Zach

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    1. why is caring about your appearance childish adults now care about there appearance and they are considered adults

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    2. Times were different then. But I also think that a seventeen year old person is considered a man by some people and a boy by others.

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  13. does that mean that anyone who cares about their appearance is a child? i mean, should i dress up for my bar mitzvah or not? how bout my wedding?

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