Guide Questions:
1. According to Rashi, why did Abel become a shepherd?
2. According to Rashi, what was the difference between Cain and Abel's offerings? What in the Torah suggests this?
3. In verse 7, it says that "sin crouches at the door." At the door of what? Find at least two answers among different commentators. (For instance, contrast Rashi with Rabbi Nachman of Breslov p. 119.)
4. In verse 8, it says that Cain spoke to Abel his brother, but it does not say what he said. Find in different midrashim (such as in Etz Hayim, pp 23-24) what the Rabbis imagined Cain might have said. What do you think?
5. Imagine if the text had said, "Cain spoke to Abel his brother.... and they resolved their differences." In your own opinion, what do you think it would have taken for this to happen?
6. According to Rashi, why did God ask Cain, "Where is Abel your brother?" if God obviously knew where Abel was?
7. According to the Women's Torah Commentary (p. 19), how many times is the word "brother" used in this story, and what is the message behind this symbolism?
8. According to Rabbi Sherre Z. Hirsch in Text Messages, who might be your "brother"?
9. According to the Plaut commentary (p. 44), what are the meanings of Cain and Abel's Hebrew names? How do these fit the story?
10. Why does the Hebrew say "your brother's bloods"? (This is found in many commentaries, including Etz Hayim, Plaut, and the Stone Chumash based upon Mishnah Sandhedrin 4:5.)
1. According to Rashi, why did Abel become a shepherd?
2. According to Rashi, what was the difference between Cain and Abel's offerings? What in the Torah suggests this?
3. In verse 7, it says that "sin crouches at the door." At the door of what? Find at least two answers among different commentators. (For instance, contrast Rashi with Rabbi Nachman of Breslov p. 119.)
4. In verse 8, it says that Cain spoke to Abel his brother, but it does not say what he said. Find in different midrashim (such as in Etz Hayim, pp 23-24) what the Rabbis imagined Cain might have said. What do you think?
5. Imagine if the text had said, "Cain spoke to Abel his brother.... and they resolved their differences." In your own opinion, what do you think it would have taken for this to happen?
6. According to Rashi, why did God ask Cain, "Where is Abel your brother?" if God obviously knew where Abel was?
7. According to the Women's Torah Commentary (p. 19), how many times is the word "brother" used in this story, and what is the message behind this symbolism?
8. According to Rabbi Sherre Z. Hirsch in Text Messages, who might be your "brother"?
9. According to the Plaut commentary (p. 44), what are the meanings of Cain and Abel's Hebrew names? How do these fit the story?
10. Why does the Hebrew say "your brother's bloods"? (This is found in many commentaries, including Etz Hayim, Plaut, and the Stone Chumash based upon Mishnah Sandhedrin 4:5.)
I think it's good that God tried to give Cain a chance. Unfortunately Cain didn't care and while in distress, killed his brother. He then got exiled from the land and became the first hobo.
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Yeah, I think Cain should have actually tried.
DeleteAfter Cain murdered his brother, he also lied to God, so I also think God's punishment has to do with the lying.
Deletei dont know if he realy knew it was possible to kill him, after all, none had died yet. even if they had died, no one had been killed yet. so he realy diddnt know what hed done!
DeleteWhat was it about Cain's offering that God did not like?
ReplyDeleteMaybe because his parents eat the fruit of the garden, and because of that reminded G-d, and made him choose the meat.
DeleteI never thought of it like that. That's really interesting
DeleteMaybe God didn't accept Cain's offering to see how he would react. The Torah is filled with stories of God testing human beings.
DeleteOr maybe it's that Cain didn't get the very best of his fruits. Abel took the very best of his flocks and offered them to God.
DeleteWow. I never thought of it that way Julia. Really interesting! Cain's offering reminds God of Adam and Chava's sin in the garden. This could be a chidush!
DeleteWhere were their parents during all of this.
ReplyDeleteMaybe they're not mentioned because they don't need to be mentioned. They're not an important part of the storyline.
DeleteI think they didn't add the parents maybe because there was favorites in the family. Or because there would just be too to add to the story.
DeleteWell... they are mentioned, but very briefly.
Deletemaybe cain and abel where not living near adam v chava? or just didnt see them in the couple of days the story covers.
DeleteRashi's commentary said that the word את is repeated to suggest additional things. Apparently it is said that Cain was born with a twin sister and Abel was born with two twin sisters. They ended up marrying their sisters. Rabbi Meszler thinks that is creepy, but we were thinking, who else would they marry? There was no one else!
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So when did people decide to have different last names than other people and conclude that they're not related anymore to other people? If people didn't do that, all of us would have the same last name and be related to each other! Maybe thinking about that is what makes Rabbi Meszler think that's creepy...
DeleteThat's true. Later, Adam and Eve had another son by the name of Sheth, and maybe he also had a twin sister to marry.
DeleteWhere were their parents during all of this.
ReplyDeleteWell... they are mentioned, but very briefly.
DeleteThe Modern Commentary mentions that the story of Cain and Abel kind of sets a theme for struggles between siblings throughout the Torah. I'd never thought of it that way before.
ReplyDeletewow, that's really interesting!
DeleteThat's true. Everyone struggles with their siblings sometimes, but this story brings this idea to the extreme.
DeleteIt's pretty amazing when you look at the book of B'reisheet as a whole - there isn't one family that doesn't have some sort of sibling rivalry or tension.
DeleteI think G-d asked Cain where his brother is because he wanted to see if Cain could admit what he had done. Maybe even to feel a little guilty.
ReplyDeleteI never thought of it like that before. If Cain took responsibility for his actions, maybe God would not have punished him as much.
DeleteI don't know... He did kill Able in cold blood. But let that go... it was his brother!!! His own blood!
DeleteBut still, if Cain had come right out and said, "I killed Abel, and I wish I hadn't" or something like that, God probably would still punish him, but maybe not as harshly if he had been responsible.
DeleteThe guide questions has a mistake! It says, "According to Rashi, why did Cain become a shepherd?" The only thing is, Cain was never a shepherd, Abel was a shepherd and Cain was a farmer!
ReplyDeleteya I noticed that to. Rashi says that Cain never worked the land because the land was cursed.
DeleteAnd Rabbi Meszler changed it.
DeleteOk... on Chabad it says, "Now it came to pass at the end of days, that Cain brought of the fruit of the soil an offering to the Lord." So Cain brought the fruit. Also, Chabad says, "And Abel he too brought of the firstborn of his flocks and of their fattest, and the Lord turned to Abel and to his offering." It says "he too brought" so did Cain also bring sheep?
ReplyDeleteWe did Rashi
ReplyDeleteFrom Verse 10: Your brother’s blood: Heb. דְּמֵי, the plural form. His blood and the blood of his descendants. Another explanation: He inflicted many wounds upon him because he did not know from where his soul would depart. — [from Sanh. 37]
I thought this was very deep, and added a lot more emotion to the verse.
sin crouches at the door and you will crave it. but you can rule over it. this means that there always the option to do the wrong thing and its always the easier option. and you have to do the right thing anyways.
ReplyDeleteI agree. The right way isn't usually the easy way.
DeleteWell... it really depends on the situation. For example, if you're a nice person, you don't want to hurt someone for no reason.
DeleteRashi's commentary says that fire came and consumed Abel's offering. I find that interesting, because in this day and age, fire consuming something is usually a bad thing, but in this case it means God accepted the offering.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that's why God questioned Cain's sadness.
DeleteHow else would you show how god would consume the offering and accept it? Put a smily face in the sky. That would show Gods presence at not such a big moment
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DeleteMy commentator is Rashi, and he was answering why Cain said he did not know. He said that Cain was a liar and he could not repent for his sin. I learned that repenting is a hard thing to do and that lying is not an easy way to get out of it.
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Rashi's commentary says that "At the entrance, sin is lying" means that your sin is preserved at the entrance of your grave. I took that to mean that the world will always remember the impact of your sin.
ReplyDeleteWhy would Cain say, "I am my brother's keeper."?
ReplyDeleteRabbi Jeffery K. Salkin in "Text Messages" answers the question "What/who is a brother? . His answer was your “brother” is the kid in the class you have never spoken to, your ex-girlfriend, your stepsibling, and the elderly neighbor next door.
ReplyDeleteAll these people are from different parts of someone's life. All our brothers have different roles but they are still our brothers.
Rashi wondered when God cried out for Abel's death, he used blood in plural. Rashi explains that Abel's blood and his potential children's blood cried out. He also says that alternatively, it could be that Cain hit him with many wounds so he bled alot. I agree because bloods must refer to more than one person and the only other people dying are his potential children. By Ben and Josh
ReplyDelete''When you till the soil, it will not continue to give its strength to you''. What does this mean in the text.
ReplyDeleteI think it means that when Cain does his farming, the earth won't grow so he must become a gatherer rather than a farmer.
DeleteI'm still thinking about the Woman's Torah Commentary and the thoughts there on the number of times the word "brother" was mentioned. It was mentioned seven times. The Woman's Torah Commentary explains that seven is a very "special" number in Judaism. I think that the fact that the word was mentioned seven times in the text tells us that the underlying theme of the siblings is important.
ReplyDeleteI did some more research on the number seven in Judaism. I thought that what MyJewishLearning.com said about it as pretty interesting.
It said this: "Seven is one of the greatest power numbers in Judaism, representing Creation, good fortune, and blessing. A Hebrew word for luck, gad, equals seven in gematria. Another Hebrew word for luck, mazal, equals seventy-seven."
I remember learning about gematria in school a couple of years ago so this stuck with me.
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Rebecca, I love that you found something you wanted to learn more about and you went for it. www.myjewishlearning.com is a wonderful resource!
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